Thursday, December 08, 2005

Response to Sunnipath.com

At dinner the other night, I mentioned to my friend Svend about www.sunnipath.com (hereafter SP) degradation of Shias. On SP's website, Shaikh Faraz Rabbani claims that "Shi`ite methodology in hadith is laughably weak and self-contradictory."

(btw Svend moderated one of the sessions at our recent The Qunoot Foundation conference and he has been very supportive of our efforts to highlights concerns of the Shia community)

There are numerous examples of anti-Shia rhetoric on the internet but SP is quite a different story. They should be taken serious because they have growing legitimacy within Sunni circles as a source on Hanafi/Shafi fiqh. Whats interesting is the Sufi bent of SP. I say interesting because while SP will rightfully defend the importance of Sufism within Islam, the website makes numerous, offensive remarks about Shias. It is one thing to have theological differences and to even believe that the "other" may not lay claim to the "correct" understanding. But it is another thing to mock and I have often found SP to belong to this latter category.

Often our perception of proponents of Sufis is rather hagiographical but I found that in many cases, some of the most ardent opponents of Shias are self-described Sufis. The example of Nuh Ha Mim Keller comes to mind. (For more on Keller's insulting comments about Shias, check out this site here)

I say self-described Sufis because the transformation of Sufism is a subject worth exploring. As my dear professor Dr. Algar used to say in class all the time, "Sufism was once a reality without a name. Now it is a name without a reality."

While I have slight disagreements with Svend's analysis below, I admire his comments below for his polite etiquette and respect for SP. Thats important, especially if we want to talk to--not at--Sunni Path. Because SP has warned its readers to stay clear of Shias (literally not just spiritually), I am not sure what recourse Shias have to speak with SP. Thats all the more reason why I think Svend's comments are so important. (Note: Last week, his wife Shabana Mir posted a critique on her blog of Sunni Path's dismissal of Tariq Ramadan. Its a great read and it can be found here)

Please feel free to pass this around. If you have comments, please post them to the comments section of Svend's blog: http://www.akramsrazor.typepad.com/

Looking ahead, these are some of the projects that I hope The Qunoot Foundation can sponsor, publish, and disseminate--if funds permit--hint hint =)

I have always maintained that "ignorance" is too simplistic an explanation for this degradation and that in many cases, certain ideas, teachings (and indeed teachers) must be challenged.

I really admire him for writing this and articulating an alternative perspective. Visit Svend's site and give him the props he deserves.

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Tearing down Shiahs

Speaking of SunniPath, we happened to have dinner with a Shiah friend and his wife last night and I was shown some statements posted on there concerning the Shiah tradition that really saddened me.

While I don't always agree with SP, I've always been impressed by the profundity and knowledge of its contributors, and can only pray that I one day attain a fraction of their erudition and insight. So I was quite surprised when I saw a posting that included the following comments:

  1. "...the Shi`a are considered Muslims who are people of innovation (ahl al-bid`a)..."
  2. "The sunna with the people of innovation [i.e., Shiahs] is to avoid keeping their company"
  3. "Their transmissions [that support differences in how Shiah Muslims pray] from Ahl al-Bayt are fabricated. [...] Shi`ite methodology in hadith is laughably weak and self-contradictory.".

Now, I concede that I'm not a scholar who's able to evaluate the substance of these disputes and therefore accept the guidance of those who are. I also believe in honestly acknowledging differences of opinion rather than papering them over for the sake of some nebulous sense of unity (in practice, that kind of "unity" often succeeds in denying others a voice rather than bringing people together), so I'm not at all against Sunnis and Shiahs debating the issues that divide them.

But it seems to me that one can pick a side while acknowledging that there is another side--that there are competing conceptions of Islam--and without needlessly denigrating that other side. After all, the Muslims are instructed in the Quran to refrain from even mocking the gods of idolators:

Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did. (6:108)

Even if the evidence is overwhelmingly for the Sunni view, I am surprised by how some Sunni Muslim scholars feel justified in speaking so dismissively of Shiah tradition and practice. I don't understand it from a factual perspective. If one accepts, as I do, the Sunni stand, does it follow that Shiah scholars' evidence is "laughably weak and self-contradictory"? (The subtext to such a sweeping declaration is that the whole Shiah scholarly establishment is intellectually, if not morally, bankrupt. That's pretty problematic, and only a hair's breadth away from demonization and takfir.) Can't Shiahs and Sunnis honestly disagree over the historical evidence? Don't Shiahs have serious counterarguments (e.g., as this article notes, among other things, there is an ayat in the Quran that could be interpreted to support the practice of maatam) that need to be acknowledged and reviewed before coming to such a drastic conclusion?

Were we living in the Abbasid era--when Sunnis and Shiahs were vieing for control of the Ummah--perhaps there'd be a pragmatic argument for taking the low road, trashing your opponents to win the debate on the "street", where scholarly arguments hold less sway than appeals to pride and passion. But do we live in such a time today?

I mean no disrespect to Shiahs when I say this, but I don't think there's any danger of Al-Azhar being eclipsed by Qom anytime soon, at least not in terms of power and influence within the Muslim world. Sunni scholars' hold on the reins of Islamic orthodoxy in the eyes of most of the world is assured by the much larger number of Sunnis than Shiahs.

Also, so far as I know there isn't a significant trend of Sunnis "converting" [sic] to Shiah interpretations. Sunnis aren't struggling to hold their own against Shiah missionaries (as was the case in Muslim India a century ago, when Christian and Hindu missionaries were converting Muslims) .

The borders of these communities are more or less fixed by geography, demographics, and family history, so they're not really competing.

Given those realities, one would expect the analysis from the Sunni side to be temperate and dignified--in a certain sense, it is coming from a position of strength--but the opposite too often seems to be the case (and, it should be noted, is sometimes seen on the Shiah side, as well).

And you'd think we'd have bigger fish to fry than warning Sunnis to avoid hanging out with Shiahs. Given all the social problems we have in Muslim communities, I'm not sure a typical Sunni's top priority needs to be avoiding the company of a Shiah. There's no shortage of fellow Sunnis whose company one probably ought to avoid, to say nothing of how elastic this simple category of "Sunni" is for these purposes in an era of rampant secularism and religious experimentation. One wishes that such statements were contextualized more (e.g., are they referring to hardline Shiahs who vilify highly regarded Sahaba, or all Shiahs regardless of their actions or piety).

Then there's the eerily familiar ring this kind of talk has. There's a certain irony to Sufi scholars making categorical declarations that deny any intellectual legitimacy or dignity to Shiah beliefs, given how they were until quite recently on the receiving end of this phenonmenon at the hands of Wahhabis in many places. The confidence with which these declarations about the self-evident illegitimacy of maatam reminds me of the way all these vowel-heavy websites (i.e., those that assault native English speakers' aesthetic sense by insisting on using unsightly transliterations such as "Islaam", "Qur'aan", ...) discuss tawassul (e.g., this rant on http://www.allaahuakbar.net). For decades, Wahhabis (and the Wahhabized) defined Sufis and just about everybody else as outside the Ahl Sunnah wa Jama'at, and now that the tide is turning and Sufis are regaining their rightful voice within the community, some are taking a page from the Wahhabis and labeling Shiahs as being Ahl Bida etc. It seems like some us nodded off during class and missed the most important lesson of all.

Again, for me the point isn't that we should become relativists who shy away from open debate, but that we should engage in such discussions with a sense of mutual respect and an awareness that there are competing paradigms (even when we think the evidence is clearly on our side). Also, nuances in the other side's beliefs and practices need to be acknowledged (e.g., Sunni polemicists tend talk as if all Shiahs maim themselves, when the truth is that maatam takes many different forms with varying degrees of intensity and physicality).

I make these comments not to attack anybody--not that a critique from a lay person like me is terribly important in the grand scheme of things, anyway--but because I think that public statements denigrating a whole Muslim community need to be publicly challenged within the larger Muslim community because of the harm they do to us all. There are real world consequences to such offhand statements--including loss of life--in some parts of the Muslim world (e.g., Pakistan, Iraq) where Sunnis and Sunnis clash needlessly.

Finally, as a Muslim and a Sunni, I want these issues to be discussed seriously and in a way that results in increased clarity and understanding for Sunni and Shiah alike. I think a respectful and objective analysis would be far more effective towards this end. It would ultimately be more convincing, as well, I believe.

Allahu a`lam.

6 Comments:

Sunni Styles said...

If you look at the comments after Br. Akram's entry, Sheikh Faraz edited the objectionable answers and admitted that their style was not as it could or should have been, and I think that is something good, is it not?
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=139&CATE=24

11:35 PM  
mohammed said...

I find it interesting that shias and sunnis both recognize each other as Muslims, but hardly uphold the obligations and respect that is required thereof.

12:20 PM  
Nas Hashmi said...

It is hard to respect a shia. There is way too much rumors going about of all the haraam things they do. Take agha khani for instance who have made it permissable to drink alcohol or pray to a picture.

I am a sunni who bends on the sufi side, yet is not sufi. The reason I dislike the shias is because of their lack of discipline in following Islam. They would dare to wear gold, wear earings, and be loose about their religion to a point that they would even manipulate the laws to serve their own interests.

10:29 PM  
Nas Hashmi said...

I mean the males would wear gold and earings.

10:30 PM  
masooma said...

is there any update on the situation? petitions or anything?

2:27 PM  
yugi said...

IT dosent matter what they wear and so on and so forth. the prophets guidline is rather clear and i by Allah`s grace we dont have to struggle for a criterion to whom we should regard muslim and not.

“Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prays like us and faces our Qibla and eats our slaughtered animals is a Muslim and is under Allah's and His Apostle's protection. So do not betray Allah by betraying those who are in His protection." “ (Bukhari V1, book 8, #386)

thus as long as the shiah do not outwardly nullify those three categories. WE Must respect them as fellow muslims. and they are under the protection. and we have to regard their lives as sacred and accord to them proper respect. this does not mean we need to bow down to their minhaj. but there are countless hadiths and quran ayah`s which force us to deal with them in a proper manner.Allah hu A`lam.

5:35 AM  

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